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Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hannigan, Martin)
Thu Aug 18 21:34:10 2005

Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:30:26 -0400
From: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com>
To: "J. Oquendo" <sil@politrix.org>, <nanog@nanog.org>
Cc: "William Allen Simpson" <wsimpson@greendragon.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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Since when is Internet email reliable?



 -----Original Message-----
From: 	J. Oquendo [mailto:sil@politrix.org]
Sent:	Thu Aug 18 14:38:31 2005
To:	nanog@nanog.org
Cc:	William Allen Simpson
Subject:	Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS



On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, William Allen Simpson wrote:

> Apparently, you did....  Of course, repeated posting here will vastly
> improve your opportunity to examine binaries handily delivered =
directly
> to your own email box.  ;-)

"handily delivered directly to your own email box." I take note of "your
own email box." So again I ask, how do you propose dealing with mail =
that
was "handily delivered" to your clients' email boxes. Or would you just =
be
assuming "if test -f LOOKS_LIKE_MY_EMAIL then filter_that".

Either way you want to cut your comment it would take a bit of snooping =
to
parse out traffic not destined to your own email box(es). So what do you
tell your customer "Oh by the way we had to snoop in on your sessions to
stop some new and improved MS uberworm." If so, when do you do it,
when your network is crawling, after the fact... What if you're off by =
one
and accidentally filter out say a contract worth a lot. Again, if I'm
missing something by all means e-smack me.

=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D=
+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+
J. Oquendo
GPG Key ID 0x97B43D89
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0x97B43D89

To conquer the enemy without resorting to war is the most
desirable.  The highest form of generalship is to conquer
the enemy by strategy." - Sun Tzu


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Since when is Internet email reliable?<BR>
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&nbsp;-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: &nbsp; J. Oquendo [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:sil@politrix.org">mailto:sil@politrix.org</A>]<BR>
Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp; Thu Aug 18 14:38:31 2005<BR>
To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nanog@nanog.org<BR>
Cc:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; William Allen Simpson<BR>
Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Re: Blocking certain =
terrorism/porn sites and DNS<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, William Allen Simpson wrote:<BR>
<BR>
&gt; Apparently, you did....&nbsp; Of course, repeated posting here will =
vastly<BR>
&gt; improve your opportunity to examine binaries handily delivered =
directly<BR>
&gt; to your own email box.&nbsp; ;-)<BR>
<BR>
&quot;handily delivered directly to your own email box.&quot; I take =
note of &quot;your<BR>
own email box.&quot; So again I ask, how do you propose dealing with =
mail that<BR>
was &quot;handily delivered&quot; to your clients' email boxes. Or would =
you just be<BR>
assuming &quot;if test -f LOOKS_LIKE_MY_EMAIL then =
filter_that&quot;.<BR>
<BR>
Either way you want to cut your comment it would take a bit of snooping =
to<BR>
parse out traffic not destined to your own email box(es). So what do =
you<BR>
tell your customer &quot;Oh by the way we had to snoop in on your =
sessions to<BR>
stop some new and improved MS uberworm.&quot; If so, when do you do =
it,<BR>
when your network is crawling, after the fact... What if you're off by =
one<BR>
and accidentally filter out say a contract worth a lot. Again, if =
I'm<BR>
missing something by all means e-smack me.<BR>
<BR>
=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D=
+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+<BR>
J. Oquendo<BR>
GPG Key ID 0x97B43D89<BR>
<A =
HREF=3D"http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0x97B43D89"=
>http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0x97B43D89</A><BR>=

<BR>
To conquer the enemy without resorting to war is the most<BR>
desirable.&nbsp; The highest form of generalship is to conquer<BR>
the enemy by strategy.&quot; - Sun Tzu<BR>
<BR>
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