[83563] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Blocking certain terrorism/porn sites and DNS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hyunseog Ryu)
Thu Aug 18 06:42:22 2005
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 05:41:38 -0500
From: Hyunseog Ryu <r.hyunseog@ieee.org>
To: Abhishek Verma <abhishekv.verma@gmail.com>
Cc: Simon Waters <simonw@zynet.net>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <ce8d9033050818025539aefd62@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Who's going to judge whether it is good or bad?
There is a lot of different point of view, and we couldn't know whether
it is good or bad until the website is launching.
I don't think this will resolve anything for anti-terrorism.
Terrorism is judged by government viewpoint, and they have the power to
order ISP to stop the site
when they need.
This is not the technical issue at all.
A terrorist may be the hero for other country, and there is no way to
make this as global practice.
Some country may have different meaning for AlQaida by their language or
local customs for an example.
Even if this is enforced, people can do host the site under hotmail.com
or some public web hosting site.
So do we want to kill the domain because of one user's activities?
I'm not saying that terrorist activities is acceptable, but this should
be done by local government law and followed
by legitimate procedure, not by technical/operational practice.
I'm sure any registry can remove the domain if there is the reasonable
request by the internal procedure or local government law or court order.
Abhishek Verma wrote:
>>If we, is the US department of commerce, the answer is probably yes.
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>>The only operational significance, is that there is no way easy way of
>>estimating in advance the effect of removing valid DNS information from the
>>system, unless you are the administrator of the system concerned (and even
>>then mistakes happen - not when I do it of course<cough>).
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>>i.e. It may be that a nameserver called "ns1.example.com" supports domains in
>>a completely different TLD, like "example.co.uk", which belongs to an
>>important organisation or service.
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>Okay, so i am not talking about blocking or removing a name server. I
>am talking of removing that offending entry (like www.abc.com) from
>the whois database or whereever the central database is mantained.
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>>That said spammers routinely have domains, and nameservers, removed with very
>>little if any damage to legitimate Internet users.
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>>The real question is should we, words don't kill people, people kill people.
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>Definitely!
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