[82245] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Palmer (NANOG Acct))
Sat Jul 9 14:51:52 2005
From: "John Palmer (NANOG Acct)" <nanog@adns.net>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:47:26 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Vierling" <tv@duh.org>
To: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse
>
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
>
> > I'm going to dive in one more time here.
> >
> > It's not the *root* operators that are the problem -- it's the *TLD*
> > zone operators.
>
> Oh, I can certainly agree with that; we've seen some gross abuses of TLDs
> documented in gory detail right here on the NANOG list.
>
> Of course, that too is orthogonal to who provides the delegations in "." --
> except that perhaps some misguided souls are, as is relatively common,
> confusing the two realms.
>
> > > Introducing fragmented TLDs or the opportunity to supplant the common TLDs
> > > places the DNS infrastructure at risk. This is not just FUD -- DNS
> > > hijacking in alternate roots has already happened. (But if you had actually
> > > read RFC2826, you would already understand this.)
> >
> > "infrastructure at risk". Justify this *far-reaching* statement,
> > please. Show your work.
>
> AlterNIC overriding .COM and .NET listings, one of the issues leading to its
> demise. (This was done in addition to the more memorable cache poisoning
> attacks against INTERNIC.NET.)
>
Yes, and Eugene was punished for that. Notice that AlterNic really doesn't exist
anymore.
Repeat after me - COLLISIONS ARE BAD! We all agree with that.
> -- Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org> <tv@pobox.com> <todd@vierling.name>
>
>
John
