[81873] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kevin Oberman)
Fri Jul 1 13:26:21 2005
To: Todd Underwood <todd@renesys.com>
Cc: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:29:04 EDT."
<20050701012904.GJ4374@renesys.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:25:47 -0700
From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:29:04 -0400
> From: Todd Underwood <todd@renesys.com>
> Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 06:16:37PM -0700, Fred Baker wrote:
> > On Jun 30, 2005, at 5:37 PM, Todd Underwood wrote:
> > >where is the service that is available only on IPv6? i can't seem to
> > >find it.
> >
> > You might ask yourself whether the Kame Turtle is dancing at
> > http://www.kame.net/. This is a service that is *different* (returns a
> > different web page) depending on whether you access it using IPv6 or
> > IPv4.
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> heh. i guess i'll have to live without the dancing turtle, and so
> will all the other Internet users. i wonder what other useful content
> is not available on the real Internet and only available via ipv6. i
> keep asking this question and keep getting non-answers like this.
>
> the rest of fred's comment stands with useful information but i'm
> still looking for the tipping point where people migrate, en-masse,
> away from the Internet to this new, incompatible network.
You will also have to live without access to the worlds highest
resolution electron microscope located at the Research Center for Ultra
High Voltage Electron Microscopy (UHVEM) in Osaka, Japan. It is a
significant bit of research hardware used by people all over the world
and it is only accessible by IPv6.
Once again, this is largely of significance to the R&E networking
community and of far less interest to commercial Internet operators.
This sort of thing is the reason that Abilene (Internet2) and ESnet are
both IPv6 capable and have been for a long time.
This is probably not a significant issue for most of you, but, as time
passes, more and more content will start to be V6 only, especially if
located in Asia and not having a business case to support access to the
US.
--
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634
