[8103] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: measurement
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Aleph One)
Mon Mar 10 00:28:27 1997
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 20:53:02 -0600 (CST)
From: Aleph One <aleph1@dfw.net>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: Jim Browning <jfbb@atmnet.net>, "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <m0w3qjA-0007zdC@rip.psg.com>
On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Randy Bush wrote:
> > The measurement techniques described thus far focus on performance within
> > the bounds of a single network. While this is of course a challenge, what
> > about efforts to measure performance _across_ networks? I'm not talking
> > about NAP packet loss here, but a true measure of expected customer
> > satisfaction.
>
> Expectations of customer satisfaction are aleph nul or likely aleph one.
And someone called my name...
> Measurement of end user delivery are being done rather ad hack (hit the web
> site and see how high it bounces) by the folk at Intel, see
>
> Network Working Group J. Sedayao, Intel Corporation
> C. Bickerstaff, Intel Corporation
> Internet Draft
> Expiration Date: May 1997 November 1996
>
> Simple End to End Metrics and Methods for Monitoring and Measuring IP
> Provider Performance
>
> The IPPM WG is trying to work upward from a sound theoretical base. See the
> other IPPM drafts and mailing list archives.
May I also suggest people take a look a Treno. If used consistently and
regularly it may give a rought estimate of connection quality for end
users across networks.
> randy
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