[80781] in North American Network Operators' Group
re: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a few years?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fred Heutte)
Wed May 11 21:37:06 2005
From: Fred Heutte <aoxomoxoa@sunlightdata.com>
To: <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:36:31 -0700
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
(1) There will be a market for independent ISPs as long CLECs
continue to let their customers enjoy poor service and=
unnecessary
restrictions. Bandwidth is a "commodity" and scales=
appropriately;
service is "service" and does not scale without a great deal
of management commitment, resources, money, attention
and abandonment of the cut-costs/low-bid mentality.
(2) This discussion is more appropriate to the ISP-CLEC list.
Wish I could be with you all in Seattle next week but work is
piling up so . . . back to work/lurk mode . . .
phred
------ mail forwarded, original message follows ------
To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Mbazan@onelegal.com <Matt Bazan>
Subject: FW: what will all you who work for private isp's be=
doing in a few years?
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:13:23 -0700
yep, bryan brings up a good point too. looks like the private=
dsl
reseller ship will soon be taking on more water and floundering=
yet
further.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Battle [mailto:brian@confluence.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:32 AM
To: Matt Bazan
Subject: RE: what will all you who work for private isp's be=
doing in a
few years?
You forgot to mention Verizon's Fios (fiber to the house) which=
will
definitely put smaller dsl resellers out of business, unless=
Verizon
gives them access to resell that as well. 15Mbs/2Mbs for $49.95=
is
going to make even the cable operators scramble to increase=
bandwidth to
maintain customers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Bazan [mailto:Mbazan@onelegal.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:09 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in=
a few
years?
why in the world would anyone want to purchase dsl from a private=
reseller when i can get 4mb down 384 up from comcast for $25? =
think you
dsl resellers out there are doomed. in fact, just a matter of=
time
before most of you isps are down the toilet. im reminded of the=
mom and
pop grocery store phenomenon that has now been replaced by the=
kohls,
a&p, whole foods etc. of course there will always be niche=
markets but
this is less applicable for a pure commodity like bandwidth. =
yeah, i
suppose you'll say something about value added services and such=
and you
may have a point but i doubt that will keep the ship afloat for=
long.
