[79347] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: so, how would you justify giving users security? [was: Re: botted hosts]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (J.D. Falk)
Mon Apr 4 13:33:59 2005
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:32:49 -0700
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cybernothing.org>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <42518733.4030202@linuxbox.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On 04/04/05, Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org> wrote:
> Most people won't care about their "freedom" if they can do whatever
> they want by asking for it. Most users want Web, Mail and IM. Three
> things. How are any of these guys who could easily get their privileges
> (and your responsibilities) back again even going to guess that some big
> right is being taken away? They have complete freedom and x9000 more
> safety. They can even sign a paper stating exactly that.
>
> So, costs savings on bandwidth and support. Less net abuse. Ouch - less
> demand on AV sales? Run the numbers people.
Problem is, this conversation is mostly taking place amongst
geeks -- and most of us geeks /do/ want open access. So the gut
reaction is "oh shit, I won't be able to run my personal mail
server at home anymore!" even though the consumers of consumer-
grade services don't know how to do that, and don't care.
--
J.D. Falk uncertainty is only a virtue
<jdfalk@cybernothing.org> when you don't know the answer yet
