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Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (J.D. Falk)
Fri Feb 25 20:00:53 2005

Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:00:10 -0800
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cybernothing.org>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.61.0502251511150.29345@pants.snark.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On 02/25/05, just me <matt@snark.net> wrote: 

> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Edward B. Dreger wrote:
> 
>   Internal users:  With AUTH - correlate message with authenticated user,
>   then forbid mail transmission for them only.  I'd rather do that than
>   slog through RADIUS logs.  But, hey, maybe if I had more free time...
> 
> Increasing the detail of an audit trail doesnt mean anyone will 
> automatically use the information in an effective manner.
> 
> Without auth, most ISPs could correlate abuse behavior between MTA 
> logs and RADIUS logs, if they cared. Most don't. SMTP AUTH won't 
> change that.  

	I don't get it, Matt.  Are you trying to tell us that because 
	some ISP's don't care, the ISP's who /do/ care /shouldn't/ move 
	their users to doing mail submissions on port 587?

-- 
J.D. Falk                                          uncertainty is only a virtue
<jdfalk@cybernothing.org>                    when you don't know the answer yet

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