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The Terrible Secret of MAAWG (was Re: Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?))

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (J.D. Falk)
Fri Feb 25 19:48:20 2005

Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:47:31 -0800
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cybernothing.org>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <OFEFC00425.EE508F9D-ON80256FB3.0077F2FE-80256FB3.0079E60D@radianz.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On 02/25/05, Michael.Dillon@radianz.com wrote: 

> > You might want to check out http://www.maawg.org - at least stateside,
> 
> I'm uncomfortable with two aspects of this group.
> First is it's anti-abuse stance. I would prefer to
> see a group that was focussed on services, i.e.
> providing the best email service possible to end-users.

	Services are the competitive differentiator between the various
	companies which do e-mail, so that's not likely to happen.

> The second thing is the secrecy surrounding this 
> group. 

	You (or anyone else) can attend the meeting in San Diego.  The
	price online for non-members was $100, but online registration
	is closed and I don't know what it'll cost on-site.  Here's the
	agenda, complete with topics and names of presenters and who
	they each work for:

	http://www.maawg.org/news/news/0503_GeneralMeeting

	The secret has been revealed!  Viva la revolucion!

-- 
J.D. Falk                                          uncertainty is only a virtue
<jdfalk@cybernothing.org>                    when you don't know the answer yet

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