[78137] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: UN Panel Aims to End Internet Tug of War by July
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Deepak Jain)
Tue Feb 22 14:40:41 2005
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:39:59 -0500
From: Deepak Jain <deepak@ai.net>
Reply-To: deepak@ai.net
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: rosshosman@spamarrest.com, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1109069627@imac-en0.delong.sj.ca.us>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
ICANN won't say yes. Now that a new fee for TLD operators goes to ICANN,
they won't want to give it up. Simple non-profit business practices. If
ITU operates it, they would keep the existing fees and then add a few
others. I think we've already seen the bottom in terms of fees to
operate a registry. Even as everything to do the job gets cheaper, the
fees to kick upstairs will probably keep going up.
To keep this on-topic, I think that the operational internet won't have
much to say as long as the control is managed/moved seamlessly and no
unusually draconian policies are put _into practice_. I'm positive there
are already some pretty draconian polices on the books, but because they
haven't become operational issues yet, no one worries about them.
DJ
Owen DeLong wrote:
> What if the UN says ITU should run the TLDs, ICANN says yes, and, a
> significant portion of the operational internet says no?
>
> Owen
>
>
> --On Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:53 AM -0800 Ross
> <rosshosman@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> No government will ever have the internet's best interest in mind when
>> they talk about controlling it. Luckily government control has been kept
>> some what to a minimum so far but it's growing rapidly and this is
>> another attempt for a government body to "control" the internet.
>>
>> I wonder what new rules will be put in place if the ITU gets control?
>>
>> I also wonder if the ITU can really take control. What if the U.N. says
>> the ITU should run the TLD's and ICANN says no?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon Feb 21 18:15:00 PST 2005, Joel Jaeggli <joelja
>> @darkwing.uoregon.edu=""> wrote:</joelja>
>>
>> > When I hear Robert Mugabe talk about internet governance I don't
>> really
>> > get the impression that he has the interests of the people of
>> Zimbabwe at
>> > heart.
>> >
>> > joelja
>> >
>> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Dave Crocker wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:45:12 -0500, Scott W Brim wrote:
>> >>> > I'm intrigued at the failure to distinguish between
>> the web and
>> >>> >
>> >>> > email, given that spam is a messaging phenomenon, not
>> a publishing
>> >>> > phenomenon.
>> >>> >
>> >>> It's actually a failure to distinguish the web from the
>> Internet
>> >>
>> >> i was probably too cryptic. yes, they are using the term 'web'
>> to mean 'the internet'.
>> >>
>> >> the problem is that professional writing needs to be careful,
>> and a failure at such a basic level as using web to apply to email does
>> not bode well for the utility of the article...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> d/
>> >> --
>> >> Dave Crocker
>> >> Brandenburg InternetWorking
>> >> +1.408.246.8253
>> >> dcrocker a t ...
>> >> WE'VE MOVED to: www.bbiw.net
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> >
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>> > Joel Jaeggli Unix Consulting
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