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Re: IPv6, IPSEC and DoS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Iljitsch van Beijnum)
Sun Jan 2 05:26:39 2005

In-Reply-To: <200501020307.j0237Bf6021755@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:26:09 +0100
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On 2-jan-05, at 4:07, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

>> No, that list is just a starting point for the discussion. A lot of
>> stuff in the list doesn't amount to anything. (For instance, there is
>> no ARP in IPv6.)

> Yeah, ARP is basically one machine yelling "Who has this IP?" and 
> another
> one answering "ME!! ME!!".  In IPv6, there's something called "Neighbor
> Discovery" where one machine yells "Who has this address?" and another 
> one
> yells back "ME!! ME!!".  Totally different things :)

The base functionality is obviously the same. It's implemented quite 
differently, though.

> (Note that they both do the exact same thing to make sure the correct
> machine is yelling "ME!! ME!!"....)

Really? So ARP uses SEND? ( 
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/send-charter.html )

(Although living in a hostile subnet isn't something I would recommend 
in the first place. Being on the same link opens way too many 
additional attack vectors.)


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