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Re: Opinions of recent ITU Comments on the Management of IP Addresses

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Nov 23 13:06:37 2004

To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Cc: Vince Hoffman <jhary@unsane.co.uk>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:16:53 +0100."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 13:03:59 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:16:53 +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum said:

> not arise with respect to IPv6. I have discussed with some industry  
> experts my idea to reserve a block of IPv6 addresses for allocation by 
> authorities of  countries, that is, assigning a block to a country at 
> no cost, and letting the country itself  manage this kind of address in 
> IPv6. By assigning addresses to countries, we will enable  any 
> particular user to choose their preferred source of addresses: either 
> the countryassigned ones or the region/international-assigned ones."

Down side:  This seems to cater to those places with an incumbent telco
monopoly - if there's competition, we probably long term end up with
pretty massive deaggregation anyhow. (Imagine 3 telcos, each with their
own pipe across the border that land at different places....)

Up side: It's a lot easier to track down all the netblocks said telco
has when you decide you're fed up with their non-stellar abuse@ response.
At least we'd minimize the accidental collateral damage we see now in
IPv4 when a site that's fed up with Chinese/Korean spam blocks the whole
/8 and takes part of Australia or New Zealand with it....

What will probably actually happen - the incumbent telco will get their
prefix, and the abusive users will find ways to get an announcement of
their sub-allocation of a regional prefix anyhow (so we end up with the worst
of both worlds)...

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