[73755] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RIPE "Golden Networks" Document ID - 229/210/178
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Thu Sep 2 12:50:37 2004
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:44:34 -0400
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
To: Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <FCCC37DD-FCF6-11D8-B0E9-000A95BD713E@centergate.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 08:44:34AM -0700, Rodney Joffe wrote:
> See: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/routeflap-damping.html
> and
> http://www.qorbit.net/documents/golden-networks (thanks, Steve!)
>
> If you do, what parameters do you use, or do you not dampen the "golden
> networks" at all?
>
> If you don't implement ripe-229, why not?
>
> Note: A *significant* number of networks appear to *not* follow
> ripe-229 guidelines at all.
I think the real quesiton is:
Based on the increased performance of routers these days..
most people running BGP aren't using a 2500 or AGS+ anymore, or at least
not getting a full routing table on them.
Is bgp dampening really necessary anymore? Obviously we should
dampen people that flap a high number of times in an hour, but the vast
majority of the internet operates in a state where dampening causes more
pain than benifit, imho.
- jared
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