[73656] in North American Network Operators' Group
Definition of P2P (was Feinstein)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bora Akyol)
Mon Aug 30 20:10:41 2004
From: "Bora Akyol" <bora@cisco.com>
To: "'Dave Dennis'" <dmd@speakeasy.org>
Cc: "'Martin J. Levy'" <mahtin@mahtin.com>,
"'Sean Donelan'" <sean@donelan.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:09:56 -0700
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408301702250.11861@shell1.speakeasy.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Sorry, was it possible to search for a file from > millions of storage
nodes
in IRC?
Bora
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Dennis [mailto:dmd@speakeasy.org]
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:04 PM
> To: Bora Akyol
> Cc: 'Martin J. Levy'; 'Sean Donelan'; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the
> Benefits of P2P
>
>
> /dcc send <nick> filename
>
> peer to peer sharing, on irc, since 1991.
>
> Napster simply implemented the IRC protocol's DCC function,
> with a better command set / GUI.
>
>
>
> +-------------------------
> + Dave Dennis
> + Seattle, WA
> + dmd@speakeasy.org
> + http://www.dmdennis.com
> +-------------------------
>
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Bora Akyol wrote:
>
> >
> > I think we need to define what P2P is before we can address this.
> >
> > IMHO, P2P started with NAPSTER, yes before that there was
> WWW, gopher,
> > ftp,
> > files by email, bitnet, x/y/z modem, bbs (dating myself here),
> > but the large scale bandwidth usage that is seen started
> with NAPSTER.
> >
> > P2P I would define as distributed file sharing with
> database like search
> > capabilities. If you define it in this context, the bandwidth
> > characteristics of P2P is a lot closer (but on a higher
> scale) than the
> > bandwidth characteristics of a traditional web surfer.
> Hence, ADSL in
> > particular and asymmetric data comm in general hamper P2P.
> >
> >
> > Bora
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin J. Levy [mailto:mahtin@mahtin.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:13 PM
> > > To: Sean Donelan
> > > Cc: Bora Akyol; nanog@merit.edu
> > > Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the
> > > Benefits of P2P
> > >
> > >
> > > Sean,
> > >
> > > >There were lots of FTP mirrors around.
> > > >Every Sun workstation could have a Anonymous FTP. Of
> > > course, the problem
> > > >was every Sun workstation could be an Anonymous FTP :-)
> > >
> > > ... but you forgot to mention that filtering and firewalls
> > > and NAT were not in common use, hence everywhere was
> > > accessible from everywhere. P2P was all there was.
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> >
> >
>
