[73655] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the Benefits of
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Dennis)
Mon Aug 30 20:04:48 2004
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:04:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Dennis <dmd@speakeasy.org>
To: Bora Akyol <bora@cisco.com>
Cc: "'Martin J. Levy'" <mahtin@mahtin.com>,
'Sean Donelan' <sean@donelan.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <00a301c48ee9$d0c8c800$650a0a0a@amer.cisco.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
/dcc send <nick> filename
peer to peer sharing, on irc, since 1991.
Napster simply implemented the IRC protocol's DCC function,
with a better command set / GUI.
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+ Dave Dennis
+ Seattle, WA
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Bora Akyol wrote:
>
> I think we need to define what P2P is before we can address this.
>
> IMHO, P2P started with NAPSTER, yes before that there was WWW, gopher,
> ftp,
> files by email, bitnet, x/y/z modem, bbs (dating myself here),
> but the large scale bandwidth usage that is seen started with NAPSTER.
>
> P2P I would define as distributed file sharing with database like search
> capabilities. If you define it in this context, the bandwidth
> characteristics of P2P is a lot closer (but on a higher scale) than the
> bandwidth characteristics of a traditional web surfer. Hence, ADSL in
> particular and asymmetric data comm in general hamper P2P.
>
>
> Bora
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin J. Levy [mailto:mahtin@mahtin.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:13 PM
> > To: Sean Donelan
> > Cc: Bora Akyol; nanog@merit.edu
> > Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the
> > Benefits of P2P
> >
> >
> > Sean,
> >
> > >There were lots of FTP mirrors around.
> > >Every Sun workstation could have a Anonymous FTP. Of
> > course, the problem
> > >was every Sun workstation could be an Anonymous FTP :-)
> >
> > ... but you forgot to mention that filtering and firewalls
> > and NAT were not in common use, hence everywhere was
> > accessible from everywhere. P2P was all there was.
> >
> > Martin
> >
>
>
