[71775] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Can a customer take IP's with them?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Ranch)
Wed Jun 23 13:12:17 2004
From: Chris Ranch <CRanch@Affinity.com>
To: "'alex@nac.net'" <alex@nac.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:11:38 -0400
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Hello Alex,
> > In other words, customer is asking a court to rule whether
> > or not IP space should be portable, when an industry-
> > supported organization (ARIN) has made policy that the
> > space is in fact not portable. It can be further argued that
> > the court could impose a TRO that would potentially negatively
> > affect the operation of my network.
>
> A court will likely decide this based upon the terms of
> your contract and what the court thinks is fair. They will
> likely give very little consideration to common practice or
> ARIN's rules.
That's the crux of the biscuit. Your case depends on whether you
provided for this in your contract with the customer. If its missing,
you have a big challenge on your hands. No RFC or ARIN policy is a
binding legal document. If its there, your chances are much better.
So, do you discuss non-portable address space assignment in your
contract?
Where was this case filed? NJ or federal court?
Do let us know how it turns out. This will establish a key legal
precedent.
Chris
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Hello Alex,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> > In other words, customer is asking a court to rule whether </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > or not IP space should be portable, when an industry-</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > supported organization (ARIN) has made policy that the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > space is in fact not portable. It can be further argued that </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > the court could impose a TRO that would potentially negatively</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > affect the operation of my network.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> A court will likely decide this based upon the terms of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> your contract and what the court thinks is fair. They will </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> likely give very little consideration to common practice or </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ARIN's rules.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>That's the crux of the biscuit. Your case depends on whether you</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>provided for this in your contract with the customer. If its missing,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>you have a big challenge on your hands. No RFC or ARIN policy is a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>binding legal document. If its there, your chances are much better. </FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>So, do you discuss non-portable address space assignment in your </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>contract?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Where was this case filed? NJ or federal court?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Do let us know how it turns out. This will establish a key legal </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>precedent.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Chris</FONT>
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