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Re: Suggestion for NANOG Meeting

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Woodcock)
Mon Jan 20 18:55:58 1997

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:23:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Woodcock <woody@zocalo.net>
To: madison@acsi.net, mleber@he.net
Cc: nanog@MERIT.EDU, srh@MERIT.EDU

      Mike Leber <mleber@he.net> writes:

    > Using "ask to be taken off their list" as an indicator indicates
    > a naive understanding of how serious spam servers (for lack of a
    > better term) operate.

    > The primary reason that a well written spam includes a way "to
    > get off the list" are it gives recipients an action to take,
    > thus reducing complaints.

    > You can ask to be removed from the scam artist's lists all you
    > want, but you will never be removed from the spam server's
    > master list.

I can confirm this.  The reply-to address of a good deal of the spam
out there is <someusername>@domain.com, the example address, so the
"remove-request" just gets a reply from the example address mailbot
and is then trashed.  We're currently seeing about 20mb/day of these
misaddressed remove-requests.

                         -Bill

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