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Re: Cisco's Statement about IPR Claimed in draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Thu May 13 11:51:19 2004

To: Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 12 May 2004 21:51:53 EDT."
             <Pine.NEB.4.58.0405122134560.9034@server.duh.org> 
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 11:50:39 -0400
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 21:51:53 EDT, Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org>  said:

> Gimme a break.  This text is a half-baked concoction at best if the next
> draft still doesn't mention port randomization as a cheap and effective
> mitigator for external attack attempts.  You can get at least 14 bits of
> entropy for one lousy arc4random() call.  Enter as often as you like.  No
> purchase required.
> 
> With this and the patent funny business, I don't know if I can roll my eyes
> any further into the back of my head.

Well.. you have to remember that we live in an environment where people
are *just* noticing that RFC793 says "The RST has to be in the window,
not dead on"... and apparently overnight somebody has re-discovered the
fact that CSMA/CA networks will fall over if somebody starts jabbering:

http://www.auscert.org.au/render.html?it=4091



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