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Re: Cisco's Statement about IPR Claimed in draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Henning Brauer)
Thu May 13 14:40:58 2004

Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 20:40:36 +0200
From: Henning Brauer <hb-nanog@bsws.de>
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* Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com> [2004-05-13 19:52]:
> I don't think you can fully randomize the source port as it might clash 
> with well-known ports.

of course. 1024 - 49151, on OpenBSD.

> Also, it may be somewhat expensive to make ports 
> truly random. (But not as expensive as doing MD5 for the whole 
> session.)

We have randomized src ports in OpenBSD since 1996 - on all platforms, 
including vax and such. No, it is not expensive.

> But why are you assuming the window size is 64k? This is completely 
> unnecessary, and not done in practice by "real" routers: those 
> typically use a 16k window. It should even be possible to set the 
> window to a very small size, such as 64 bytes. That's enough to receive 
> the initial BGP header, after which the window can be set to a larger 
> size until the session is idle again.

In OpenBSD's bgpd, we only scale the window up of md5sig or ipsec is in 
use...

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