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Re: Lazy network operators

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Workman)
Sat Apr 10 23:48:19 2004

Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:45:20 -0400
From: Jeff Workman <jworkman@pimpworks.org>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0404102027110.11271-100000@sasami.anime.net>
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--On Saturday, April 10, 2004 8:30 PM -0700 Dan Hollis <goemon@anime.net> 
wrote:

> exodus for example had a hands off policy, dont do a single thing until
> law enforcement arrives with a search warrant.

While this might be a PITA for everybody, I don't see why everybody wants 
to chastise NSPs for this practice, especially NSPs that are/were telcos. 
Isn't this more or less the way telcos have dealt with abuse issues for 
decades?

I used to work for a very small (~10k dialup customer) ISP, and at the time 
our abuse policy was "if somebody complains, and you can find *something* 
in the logs, then lock the account."  Then I went to work for a so-called 
"Tier-1" and learned in short order that this policy does not scale, 
especially when abusive customers with DS3s are waving around fully loaded 
lawyers.

-J

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Jeff Workman | jworkman@pimpworks.org | http://www.pimpworks.org

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