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Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Wed Feb 18 13:06:51 2004

To: don@bowenvale.co.nz
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:08:25 +1300."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:06:05 -0500
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:08:25 +1300, Don Gould <don@bowenvale.co.nz>  said:

> The RFC for mail was very well designed.  If people simply stuck to the
> orginal RFC (~800 something) and managed more of their own small systems
> then this spam thing just wouldn't be the problem that it has become...
> would it?

The problem is that literally 95% of the end hosts on the internet are running
software that's not capable of being properly managed by the people who are
alledgedly managing them.

(Yes, that was carefully phrased that way, because there's *multiple* failures
in the basic model.  Lots of blame to go around on this one).

Any real solution is going to have to deal with the fact that properly administered
systems are in the distinct minority.

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