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Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert E. Seastrom)
Tue Feb 17 17:49:30 2004

To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: "Tony Hain" <alh-ietf@tndh.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
From: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs@seastrom.com>
Date: 17 Feb 2004 17:48:44 -0500
In-Reply-To: <20040217210509.5EF865DE77@segue.merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> writes:

> and, if you want to see a particularly broken example, buy "internet
> service" from t-mobile gprs in the states, port 22 blocked, no smtp
> relay, ...  "walled garden" mentality from the get go.

Strangely enough, the only complaints I've heard about t-mob GPRS
(aside from whininess about the 800ms latency typical of GPRS)
involved a protracted effort, eventually successful, to get them to
understand that having *something*, *anything* in the in-addr.arpa for
their address pool was a Good Plan...  and that was a year or two ago.

The ssh client for the Danger Sidekick is extremely popular, and I
don't think it would be if the scenario you mention above were true.

                                        ---Rob


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