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Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Tue Feb 17 16:07:46 2004

From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:05:02 -0800
To: "Tony Hain" <alh-ietf@tndh.net>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> The Internet has value because it allows arbitrary interactions where new
> applications can be developed and fostered. The centrally controlled model
> would have prevented IM, web, sip applications, etc. from ever being
> deployed. If there are any operators out there who still understand the
> value in allowing the next generation of applications to incubate, you need
> to push back on this tendency to limit the Internet to an 'approved' list of
> ports and service models.

bingo!

and, if you want to see a particularly broken example, buy
"internet service" from t-mobile gprs in the states, port
22 blocked, no smtp relay, ...  "walled garden" mentality
from the get go.

randy


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