[64816] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Sabotage investigation of fiber cuts... [collapsed RBOC rings]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (fkittred@gwi.net)
Mon Nov 3 10:13:03 2003
To: "Douglas S. Peeples" <dpeeples@talabs.com>
Cc: "'Brian Bruns'" <bruns@2mbit.com>,
"'Henry Linneweh'" <hrlinneweh@sbcglobal.net>,
"'Vincent J. Bono'" <vbono@vinny.org>, nanog@merit.edu,
"'Sean Donelan'" <sean@donelan.com>
From: fkittred@gwi.net
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:15:11 EST."
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Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:09:30 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:15:11 -0500 "Douglas S. Peeples" wrote:
> What you describe is a folded ring and is indicative of either a =
> temporary
> solution or bad network design. As a rule, phone companies and capacity
> suppliers build very robust systems. =20
>
> Douglas S. Peeples
> Technology Assurance Labs
Are you sure? On or about August 5th, 2003 in Augusta, ME, while cross
examining a Verizon employee expert witness in testimony for Maine PUC
Docket 2002-243, I got him to say muliple times under oath that 90% of
Verizon's fiber rings in the state of Maine are at least partially
collapsed, what you call a folded ring... That is, only 10% of
Verizon's fiber rings are fully redundant.[1]
I don't have any proof of this but suspect that Maine is average and
Verizon is average for a US RBOC. I suspect that 90% of US RBOC fiber
rings are at least partially collapsed...
regards,
fletcher
[1] I Am Not A Lawyer; the above is my best recollection of the
testimony. Documents in regards to Docket 2002-243 are on line off
of the Maine PUC web site (http://www.state.me.us/mpuc/homepage.htm)
under the virtual case file (http://mpuc.informe.org.) Search by
docket number 2002243. For some reason, the testimony is not there.
I will ask a PUC lawyer why that is and see if it can be added.
