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RE: Wired mag article on spammers playing traceroute games with trojaned boxes

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (McBurnett, Jim)
Thu Oct 9 12:09:53 2003

Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:01:35 -0400
From: "McBurnett, Jim" <jmcburnett@msmgmt.com>
To: "Chris Boyd" <cboyd@gizmopartners.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



->
->I found one of these today, as a matter of fact.  The spam was=20
->advertising an anti-spam package, of course.
->
->The domain name is vano-soft.biz, and looking up the address, I get
->
->Name:    vano-soft.biz
->Addresses:  12.252.185.129, 131.220.108.232, 165.166.182.168,=20
->193.165.6.97
->           12.229.122.9
->
->A few minutes later, or from a different nameserver, I get
->
->Name:    vano-soft.biz
->Addresses:  131.220.108.232, 165.166.182.168, 193.165.6.97,=20
->12.229.122.9
->           12.252.185.129
->
->This is a real Hydra.  If everyone on the list looked up=20
->vano-soft.biz=20
->and removed the trojaned boxes, would we be able to kill it?
->
->--Chris


I got :=20
Canonical name: vano-soft.biz
Addresses:
  165.166.182.168
  193.92.62.42
  200.80.137.157
  12.229.122.9
  12.252.185.129

I think even if we get all the ones for this domain name today,=20
assuming we can muster even man hours to get it today, another
5000 will be added tomarrow.
And looking at my list We have US(a very small ISP and a large ISP)=20
RIPE, and LACNIC.

I wonder if the better question should be:

Can Broadband ISP's require a Linksys, dlink or other
broadband router without too many problems?

That is what it will take to slow this down, and then only if=20
ALL of ISP's do it.

This not only affects this instance but global security=20
as a whole. Just a few days ago, Cisco was taken=20
offline by a large # of Zombies, I am willing to
say that those are potentially some of the same=20
compromised systems.


Thoughts?
Jim

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