[58041] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen J. Wilcox)
Tue Apr 29 18:36:32 2003
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:34:59 +0100 (BST)
From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@telecomplete.co.uk>
To: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Cc: Richard Irving <rirving@onecall.net>,
"Temkin, David" <temkin@sig.com>, Daniel Golding <dgold@fdfnet.net>,
Kai Schlichting <kai@pac-rim.net>,
North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <000001c30e9e$2f421f30$93b58742@ssprunk>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>
> Thus spake "Richard Irving" <rirving@onecall.net>
> > > There are companies that connect to thousands of other companies
> > > (see the financial markets) that require unique addressing between
> > > companies with non-colliding address ranges. 10.x.x.x doesn't
> > > quite cut it.
> >
> > This is not an acceptable excuse to burn PI space.
> >
> > There are plenty of other Iana-L available... try using an obscure one.
>
> If RIRs want to claim their allocations aren't guaranteed to be routable,
> that must mean they are willing to make allocations for non-routed use.
Hmm, I dont believe the inverse is true, not guaranteed to be routable refers to
them making no guarantees on the policies of ISPs with regards to prefix length
filtering etc and not guaranteeing that to possess IPs means you can connect to
the Internet without doing everything else an ISP should do.
Making allocations for non-routed use is not the same and a separate question.
Steve
> Furthermore, there is nothing in the ARIN allocation policies requiring a
> member to actually announce all of his allocations on the public Internet.
>
> You're welcome to propose new RIR policies, but the reality today is that
> globally unique addresses can be and are allocated for private use.
>
> S
>
> Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein
> CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
> K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
>
>
