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Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Irving)
Tue Apr 29 18:30:18 2003

Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:28:38 -0500
From: Richard Irving <rirving@onecall.net>
To: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Cc: "Temkin, David" <temkin@sig.com>,
	Daniel Golding <dgold@fdfnet.net>, Kai Schlichting <kai@pac-rim.net>,
	North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


No, I am not proposing a new Arin addressing scheme...

   This was a standard I am quoting from memory, way back...

  I too had asked for Unique space that was wasn't going to be
routed, and recieved a "Sorry, Arin only allocates addresses
that are going to be used on the -=Internet=-." response....

   I didn't invent the perspective, just "parroted" it.




Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> Thus spake "Richard Irving" <rirving@onecall.net>
> 
>>>There are companies that connect to thousands of other companies
>>>(see the financial markets) that require unique addressing between
>>>companies with non-colliding address ranges.  10.x.x.x doesn't
>>>quite cut it.
>>
>>    This is not an acceptable excuse to burn PI space.
>>
>>There are plenty of other Iana-L available... try using an obscure one.
> 
> 
> If RIRs want to claim their allocations aren't guaranteed to be routable,
> that must mean they are willing to make allocations for non-routed use.
> Furthermore, there is nothing in the ARIN allocation policies requiring a
> member to actually announce all of his allocations on the public Internet.
> 
> You're welcome to propose new RIR policies, but the reality today is that
> globally unique addresses can be and are allocated for private use.



> 
> S
> 
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> K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
> 



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