[57615] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Independent space from ARIN
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Johnson)
Mon Apr 14 22:09:01 2003
From: "Brian Johnson" <brianj@nvc.net>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:08:16 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
I thought ARIN was a not-for-profit organization. Like a co-op.
I want a cut as I am an ARIN member. :-)
- Brian J.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix@techmonkeys.org>
To: "Richard A Steenbergen" <ras@e-gerbil.net>; <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Independent space from ARIN
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:21:01AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
>
> > * Why do we have to pay very large sums of money ($2500+ per year at a
> > minimum) for this wonderful IP policing service. Where in the heck
does
> > all that money go?
>
> From http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/budget.html :
>
> Out of the $7,861,700.00 they raked in last year:
>
> SALARIES $2,326,653.85
> FRINGE BENEFITS $1,045,063.15
> HIRING COSTS $75,000.00
> TRAVEL AND CONFERENCE $631,732.40
> COMMUNICATIONS $236,699.62
> COMPUTER $118,941.75
> DEPRECIATION $445,750.00
> RENT & OCCUPANCY $461,287.00
> GENERAL OFFICE $192,400.00
> LEGAL FEES $100,000.00
> Legal Defense Fund $200,000.00
> ICANN SUPPORT $188,480.00
> Other Internet Support - Merit & ISOC $100,000.00
> LACNIC SUPPORT $66,000.00
> CONSULTING $184,000.00
> Total $6,372,007.76
>
>
> In other words, they're milking the cash cow.
>
> > * Why are we expected to continue the status quo of paying thousands of
> > dollars for addresses in IPv6? Without the threat of an artifical
> > shortage to "manage", what possible reason is there to justify ARIN's
> > existance or fees? Why do we all get the feeling IPv6 isn't an end to
> > the expenses, but rather a vast new market of registration and renewal
> > fees?
>
> Because the owners of the cash cow don't want it to go away.
>
> > --
> > Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras
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2CBC)
>
> --
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>
