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Re: Independent space from ARIN

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew S. Hallacy)
Mon Apr 14 22:03:40 2003

Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:01:44 -0500
From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix@techmonkeys.org>
To: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20030414062101.GB41027@overlord.e-gerbil.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:21:01AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:

> * Why do we have to pay very large sums of money ($2500+ per year at a 
>   minimum) for this wonderful IP policing service. Where in the heck does
>   all that money go?

From http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/budget.html :

Out of the $7,861,700.00 they raked in last year: 

SALARIES		$2,326,653.85 
FRINGE BENEFITS		$1,045,063.15 
HIRING COSTS		$75,000.00  
TRAVEL AND CONFERENCE	$631,732.40  
COMMUNICATIONS		$236,699.62  
COMPUTER		$118,941.75  
DEPRECIATION		$445,750.00  
RENT & OCCUPANCY	$461,287.00  
GENERAL OFFICE		$192,400.00  
LEGAL FEES		$100,000.00  
Legal Defense Fund	$200,000.00  
ICANN SUPPORT		$188,480.00  
Other Internet Support - Merit & ISOC  $100,000.00  
LACNIC SUPPORT		$66,000.00 
CONSULTING		$184,000.00  
Total			$6,372,007.76 


In other words, they're milking the cash cow.

> * Why are we expected to continue the status quo of paying thousands of
>   dollars for addresses in IPv6? Without the threat of an artifical 
>   shortage to "manage", what possible reason is there to justify ARIN's
>   existance or fees? Why do we all get the feeling IPv6 isn't an end to
>   the expenses, but rather a vast new market of registration and renewal
>   fees?

Because the owners of the cash cow don't want it to go away.

> -- 
> Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>       http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras
> GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

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http://www.poptix.net                           GPG public key 0x01938203

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