[57211] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: State Super-DMCA Too True
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rubens Kuhl Jr.)
Mon Mar 31 16:19:36 2003
From: "Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rkjnanog@ieg.com.br>
To: "Petri Helenius" <pete@he.iki.fi>,
"Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:16:46 -0300
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Probably because of blocking at the origin point, such as corporate net-mgrs
trying to prevent bandwidth hogs or liability issues.
Rubens
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From: "Petri Helenius" <pete@he.iki.fi>
To: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>; "Jack Bates"
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<peter.galbavy@knowtion.net>; "Mike Lyon" <mlyon@fitzharris.com>; "Simon
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Subject: Re: State Super-DMCA Too True
|
| > Well, most p2p apps live on well-known ports, and Cisco's QOS mechanism
| > allows easy classification on ports. Yes, most of the p2p apps are
| > port-agile -- but only if they are completely blocked. My experience is
| > that if you let the p2p stuff through, it'll stick to its default port
and
| > you can police with impunity.
|
| Our data shows that between 30% and 50% of p2p data flows on
"non-standard"
| ports if you run an unblocked environment.
|
| Pete
|
