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Re: State Super-DMCA Too True

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Petri Helenius)
Mon Mar 31 16:09:49 2003

From: "Petri Helenius" <pete@he.iki.fi>
To: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>,
	"Jack Bates" <jbates@brightok.net>
Cc: "Richard A Steenbergen" <ras@e-gerbil.net>,
	"Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy@knowtion.net>,
	"Mike Lyon" <mlyon@fitzharris.com>,
	"Simon Lyall" <simon.lyall@ihug.co.nz>,
	"Tony Rall" <trall@almaden.ibm.com>,
	"North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 00:08:15 +0300
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> Well, most p2p apps live on well-known ports, and Cisco's QOS mechanism
> allows easy classification on ports.  Yes, most of the p2p apps are
> port-agile -- but only if they are completely blocked.  My experience is
> that if you let the p2p stuff through, it'll stick to its default port and
> you can police with impunity.

Our data shows that between 30% and 50% of p2p data flows on "non-standard"
ports if you run an unblocked environment.

Pete


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