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RE: State Super-DMCA Too True

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (McBurnett, Jim)
Sun Mar 30 17:19:48 2003

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:18:42 -0500
From: "McBurnett, Jim" <jmcburnett@msmgmt.com>
To: "E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>,
	<nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


maybe I should have said Stateful inspection..
IE inspection of SMTP whereas it limits the commands
that are allowed and makes protocol adjustments.

thanks,
J

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> JM> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:34:28 -0500
> JM> From: "McBurnett, Jim"
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> JM> NAT-- HMMM - In my eyes that is a security precaution for the
> JM> ignorant.. Think of this: Joe user goes to Wally World, or
> JM> Staples and get's a Linksys BEFSR11 cable/dsl router. He adds
> JM> NAT, and walla, his computer is no longer wide open to the
> JM> world... Albeit not a stateful firewall, it is much more
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> Actually, it _is_ stateful.  It tracks state so it knows what
> inbound traffic is directed to what IP:port on the inside, or
> dropped if no match is found.
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> Run 1:1 NAT and see how secure that is.  Run a "public" IP
> address with stateful rules that drop inbound traffic unless
> outbound traffic happened "recently".  Compare.
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> NAT's "security" is a by-product of state that is necessary to
> achieve 1:N mapping.
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