[55494] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: OT: Banc of America Article
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sharif Torpis)
Wed Jan 29 17:39:14 2003
From: Sharif Torpis <faust@grift.com>
To: <rbf@rbfnet.com>, Al Rowland <alan_r1@corp.earthlink.net>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:35:49 -0800
In-Reply-To: <20030129191554.GA12200@panix.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Halleluljah. A voice of knowledge as opposed to conjecture.=
Different
bank ATMs operate differently. There are online and offline=
modes.
The PIN may or may not be recorded on the card. Some of these
differences are due to the fact that not all financial=
institutions
were connected to interbank networks over two decades ago. And=
yes,
some banks' ATMs dispense limited amounts of cash while=
disconnected
from the network. This is a compromise between customer service=
and
fraud exposure. You won't be able to get rich that way. There are=
plenty of resources on and offline related to magnetic stripe
cryptographic security and PIN verification methods such as=
Atalla
Identikey, Visa PW, IBM 3624, etc.
Those making the most noise should take a look at their own=
network
security, data security, and redundancy practices as they rail
against large financial networks and systems.
Regards,
Sharif
---
"Whenever I'm caught between two evils, I take the one I've never=
tried." - Mae West
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:15:54 -0600, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
>
>On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:35:37AM -0800, Al Rowland wrote:
>>
>>The PIN is on your card, likely encrypted,
>
>We're off-topic now, so I won't go into detail, but the PIN is
>sometimes on the card and sometimes not. There are different=
ways
of
>doing it. (If the sampling of cards in my wallet is=
representative,
>then mostly, the PINs aren't on the card anymore (I still have=
one
>card
>that has the PIN on the card).)
>
>-- Brett
