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Re: Bell Labs or Microsoft security?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Florian Weimer)
Wed Jan 29 17:26:42 2003

To: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
From: Florian Weimer <Weimer@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE>
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:18:51 +0100
In-Reply-To: <20030129161613.GF78231@overlord.e-gerbil.net> (Richard A
 Steenbergen's message of "Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:16:13 -0500")
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> writes:

> I said exploits, not ways to get outside your proper address space and 
> crash the OS. Any sufficiently powerful language presents an opportunity 
> to do bad things to an ill prepared OS, but the answer isn't to make the 
> language less powerful.

The Burroughs B6700 had trusted compilers.

> Perhaps if we banned C and assembly, and made everyone use perl, we'd be 
> safe. :)

The Perl parser itself (written in C ;) seems to have some issues (in
__DIE__ handlers). 8-(

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