[54914] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Avleen Vig)
Mon Jan 20 20:34:54 2003
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:34:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Avleen Vig <lists-nanog@silverwraith.com>
To: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris@UU.NET>
Cc: Daniel Senie <dts@senie.com>,
"nanog@trapdoor.merit.edu" <nanog@trapdoor.merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0301210120250.19744-100000@rampart.argfrp.us.uu.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> > Indeed it does break that. P2P clients: Mostly transfer illegal content.
> > As much as a lot of people love using these, I'm sure most realise they're
> > on borrowed time in their current state.
> > And I'm sure that if they were gone tomorrow, I'm sure they'd be back in
> > another fashion soon.
>
> That may be, but its still a problem... I believe http and ftp also
> transfer illegal content, should we shut them down? Email too? Often there
> is illegal content in email. :(
Ok before this gets out of hand :-)
I wasn't talking about ISP's policing their customers in any way.
I was merely stating that the blocking of inbound SYN packets would put a
dent in the number of usable zombie DoS clients while at th same time
having the side effect of breaking other server-type software such as P2P
clients.
I also went on to state that if the functionality of such clients really
did break as a result of this, the majority of people wouldn't have (too
much) of a right to complain as the clients are (mostly) used for illegal
traffic. Yes this would probably cause a large loss of business in *some*
areas where multiple broadband providers are availible. In other places
where a broadband monopoly exists, you would either see a switch to
business level contracts or a slight dip in business or people just living
with it.
For the record I'm not in favour of ISP's (or anyone else for that matter)
policing the internet.
