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Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Granados)
Mon Jan 20 20:27:56 2003

From: "Scott Granados" <scott@wworks.net>
To: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris@UU.NET>,
	"Avleen Vig" <lists-nanog@silverwraith.com>
Cc: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris@UU.NET>,
	"Daniel Senie" <dts@senie.com>, <nanog@trapdoor.merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:00:44 -0800
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


And their are legal uses for p2p.  I have a customer who works with some of
these technologies for legal and approved file transfers like game
publishing.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris@UU.NET>
To: "Avleen Vig" <lists-nanog@silverwraith.com>
Cc: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris@UU.NET>; "Daniel Senie" <dts@senie.com>;
<nanog@trapdoor.merit.edu>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed
Reflective attacks?


>
>
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote:
> > > Doesn't this stop kazaa/morpheus/gnutella/FTP/<some aim stuff like
private
> > > chats>? This is a problematic setup, and woudl require the cable modem
> > > provider to maintain a quickly changing 'firewall' :( I understand the
> > > want to do it, but I'm not sure its practical to see it happen based
> > > solely on the hassle factor :( Hmm, security, "you gotta pay to play"
> > > (Some famous man once said that I believe)
> >
> > Indeed it does break that. P2P clients: Mostly transfer illegal content.
> > As much as a lot of people love using these, I'm sure most realise
they're
> > on borrowed time in their current state.
> > And I'm sure that if they were gone tomorrow, I'm sure they'd be back in
> > another fashion soon.
>
> That may be, but its still a problem... I believe http and ftp also
> transfer illegal content, should we shut them down? Email too? Often there
> is illegal content  in email. :(
>
> > Ftp/HTTP etc I believe most cable providers currently block these anyway
> > :-)
> >
>
> for FTP I was talking about non-passive data traffic.
>
>
>


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