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Re: Who does source address validation? (was Re: what's that smell?)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Stuart)
Wed Oct 9 14:00:56 2002

To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:47:53 PDT."
             <20021009174754.AAA18342@shell.webmaster.com@whenever> 
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:58:30 -0700
From: Stephen Stuart <stuart@tech.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> Loss of ICMP packets generated by links with endpoints numbered in RFC1918 
> space. Holes in traceroutes, broken PMTU detection.

Sherman, set the Way-Back Machine for August:

    To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
    Cc: nanog@merit.edu
    Subject: Re: NSPs filter? 
    In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Aug 2002 17:57:35 PDT."
             <20020809005740.AAA18472@shell.webmaster.com@whenever> 
    Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 18:45:17 -0700
    From: Stephen Stuart <stuart@tech.org>

In August you said it this way:

> 	One thing that sometimes comes up is that people do number links using 
> RFC1918 address space which occasionally results in an ICMP 'fragmentation 
> needed but DF bit set' packet with an RFC1918 source address. Filtering out 
> this packet could result in TCP breaking.

I still say this:

That can be accomodated; behold, all the joy of PMTUD, with none of
the other crap from designated special-use address space:

firewall {
    family inet {
        filter external-filter {
            term allow-icmp-unreach {
                from {
		    protocol icmp;
		    icmp-type unreachable;
                    icmp-code fragmentation-needed;
                }
                then {
                    count allow-icmp-need-frag;
                    accept;
                }
            }
            term allow-icmp-timxceed {
                from {
		    protocol icmp;
		    icmp-type time-exceeded;
                    icmp-code [ ttl-eq-zero-during-transit ttl-eq-zero-during-reassembly ];
                }
                then {
                    count allow-icmp-timxceed;
                    accept;
                }
            }
            term deny-rfc1918 {
                from {
                    source-address {
                        10.0.0.0/8;
                        172.16.0.0/12;
                        192.168.0.0/16;
                    }
                }
                then {
                    count deny-rfc1918;
                    discard;
                }
            }
            term deny-test {
                from {
                    source-address {
                        192.0.2.0/24;
                    }
                }
                then {
                    count deny-test-net;
                    discard;
                }
            }
            term deny-autoconfig {
                from {
                    source-address {
                        169.254.0.0/16;
                    }
                }
                then {
                    count deny-autoconfig;
                    discard;
                }
            }
	    term LAST {
                then accept;
            }
        }
    }
}

Application is left as an exercise to the reader.

Stephen

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