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Re: Who does source address validation? (was Re: what's that smell?)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doug Barton)
Mon Oct 14 00:58:34 2002

Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:57:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Doug Barton <DougB@DougBarton.net>
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20021008225349.S85622-100000@sequoia.muada.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

> Ok, but how do you generate megabits worth of traffic for which there is
> no return traffic? At some level, someone or something must be trying to
> do something _really hard_ but keep failing every time. It just doesn't
> make sense.

I could show you VOLUMES of name server logs for people doing things that
could never possibly succeed, over and over and over again. My favorite
are the people who try to use my authoritative name servers as resolvers.
No one at my company can recall a time that our auth. name servers EVER
allowed recursion.

My point is simply that we shouldn't underestimate the stupidity of the
masses, and anything that can be done to improve things, should be. Of
course, the problem in this thread is the varying definitions of
"improve."

Doug


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