[51789] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: IP address fee??
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Samford)
Fri Sep 6 11:35:29 2002
From: "Derek Samford" <dsamford@fastduck.net>
To: "'Joe Abley'" <jabley@automagic.org>,
"'Stephen Sprunk'" <ssprunk@cisco.com>
Cc: "'Richard A Steenbergen'" <ras@e-gerbil.net>,
"'Owens, Shane (EPIK.ORL)'" <sowens@epik.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:30:48 -0400
In-Reply-To: <20020906140052.GV73885@buffoon.automagic.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Just because I'm tired of this, it's mostly due to customer work. I
learned CIDR first and foremost. I payed near no attention to Classful
addressing. I just am in the habit, in particular, of saying Class C
instead of /24. Any other block I use the CIDR notation, and then still
have to explain how many this is. I cannot believe that everyone is
really being this ridiculous. Can you all let this thread die. Yes, we
should refer to everything as CIDR. No, 90% of our clients don't
understand that. Yes, sometimes that carries over into tech
conversations. Enough.
Derek
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley@automagic.org]
> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:01 AM
> To: Stephen Sprunk
> Cc: Richard A Steenbergen; Derek Samford; 'Owens, Shane (EPIK.ORL)';
> nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: IP address fee??
>
> On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 01:13:27PM -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> > Because "Cee" is easier to pronounce than "slash twenty-four". Ease
of
> use
> > trumps open standards yet again :)
>
> Nobody was talking. "/24" is easier to type than "class C". No
> trumps! Everybody loses!
>
> How many people learn about networks from certification courses or
> in school, anyway? It was always my impression that people learnt
> mainly by listening to other people.
>
> If networking on the front lines is an informal oral tradition more
> than it is a taught science, then perhaps it's natural for obsolete
> terminology to continue to be "taught" long after it stopped having
> any relevance.
>
>
> Joe
