[51587] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Broadening the IPv6 discussion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeroen Massar)
Fri Aug 30 09:13:46 2002
From: "Jeroen Massar" <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: "'Iljitsch van Beijnum'" <iljitsch@muada.com>,
"'Petri Helenius'" <pete@he.iki.fi>
Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:11:58 +0200
In-Reply-To: <20020830132335.R80168-100000@sequoia.muada.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Petri Helenius wrote:
>
> > > What might happen is that ISPs start using IPv6 for their
> (as example) DSL
> > > services to work around addressing problems. But that is
> not a userdriven
> > > demand.
>
> > Maybe the p2p vendors should implement IPv6, it might also
> take a while
> > until RIAA finds them again :-)
>
> Then I hope they'll implement RFC 3041, otherwise the RIAA
> will go on a massive MAC address hunt...
Hmm a MAC... and then (sweet, dude) ?
I still don't get it why that would be a problem, simply because:
- one can change your IP by hand and/or automagically (RFC 3041 like you
mentioned)
- MAC's can be changed (ifconfig hwaddr... )
And then still.. they know that 'something/one' from a certain /48 did
'something'.
So what, if you pay at a store with your VISA or AMEX or simply your
bankcard.
That company holds at least your accountnumber, let's crossreference
that.
Same thing (IMHO ;) as the IP address thing, it pops up at several
places and they
can do many statistical stuff with it for behaviour research, buy styles
etc.
But then again, as long as one wants to be directly addressed you will
always be
'trackable' some how. Or are you changing bank-accountnumbers,
emailaddresses every 10 minutes?
Which pops again into the SPAM problem, where we'd (or at least me ;)
would rather be
capable of verifying who is sending stuff. If one then put that into a
log, one could
trace people too. And the bigger MX's could do that now too ofcourse...
Btw:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodt
echnol/winxppro/proddocs/sag_IP_v6_add_Utils.asp
ipv6 [-p] gpu UseAnonymousAddresses [yes|no|always|Counter]
that's how you turn that stupid feature off, it is annoying IMHO and
quite useless as
usually one is on the same /64 (or /48) so one is quite traceable
already.
Ofcourse if you got a laptop and carry it around the world with the same
EUI-64 one is
quite easily indentifyble, but then still, so what; they know you go to
cool places ;)
Greets,
Jeroen
