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Re: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brad Knowles)
Wed Aug 21 19:36:46 2002

In-Reply-To: <3D6415C5.819CDBCC@swbell.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 01:16:06 +0200
To: "Peter E. Fry" <pfry@swbell.net>, nanog@nanog.org
From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


At 5:35 PM -0500 2002/08/21, Peter E. Fry wrote:

>    Relay through your upstream (hierarchical approach)?  i.e. Register
>  your server(s) with your provider, who is presumably trusted (registered
>  with the global system).

	This is the approach I recommend, and have recommended for years.

>    A bit of an aside: I recall AT&T Canada blocked all SMTP from exiting
>  their network (excepting their own servers, of course) a few years back
>  in response to a large spam.

	AOL does the same.  They have a transparent SMTP proxy for all 
outgoing connections.  They've also explicitly asked to have this 
machine added to certain blacklists, so that people who don't want to 
receive what is almost certainly going to be spam can choose to do so.

	If you want to send "real" e-mail using AOL, then use the mail 
client provided by AOL.  It's that simple.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

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