[51171] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gary E. Miller)
Wed Aug 21 17:20:20 2002
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:51:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com>
To: Robert Blayzor <rblayzor@inoc.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <000501c24949$1c10ab90$6f00000a@z0.inoc.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Yo Robert!
How about moving this discussion to a more appropriate list? Nanog
is not the place to discuss spam and we are re-inventing the wheel,
badly, on nanog.
Half the spam I get is from throw away AOL, netzero, earthlink, etc.
accounts. Spend $10 for a new ISP account, sent 10,000 emails with
MY return address which is valid and on whitelists. Do it on a long
weekend and get 30k out before you get stopped.
If the spammers can not run their own name servers then they will just
use someone elses. Last I checked there where over 6,000 ISPs in the
country. Cancel them one place and they just go to another.
RGDS
GARY
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Robert Blayzor wrote:
> Treat them sort of like SSL certs now. Charge an annual registrar fee
> per company, not per server. (Something like $100 a year) The more they
> have to go out of their way to get their spam server online, the more
> they would be deterred to do so. They're only going to want to change
> so many ISP's, go through SWIP and then change their legal name for the
> registrar so many times.
