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RE: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James Smith)
Wed Aug 21 16:55:35 2002

From: James Smith <jsmith@PRESIDIO.com>
To: "'nanog@nanog.org'" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:30:25 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Blayzor [mailto:rblayzor@inoc.net]
> Subject: RE: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org
> 
> > I'm not a company, I'm Joe Blow private citizen - do you 
> expect me to
> > pay $100 just to sign up with AOL? 
> 
> If you are Joe Blow private citizen, why would you need to run a mail
> server?  Would you not use your ISP's, at least as a smart relay? 
> 
Because he doesn't want to. He already provides POP3/SMTP services to me
under his own domain name, and why should he change his servers to permit me
to send mail as if from another domain where I do have a "real" mail
account?

I hate the free stuff (no POP3/SMTP unless you pay), I already have my own
on another domain (for which I pay), and I don't want his (because I don't
want to keep changing email addresses everytime they get bought out/sold).

In short, because if I have to depend on my ISP for my convenience, it won't
get done, unless it's done their way. I use it for outbound only, I pop my
mail from my other provider...

James H. Smith II
Speaking for myself...

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Robert Blayzor [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:rblayzor@inoc.net">mailto:rblayzor@inoc.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: RE: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal =
at smtpng.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; I'm not a company, I'm Joe Blow private =
citizen - do you </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; expect me to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; pay $100 just to sign up with AOL? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; If you are Joe Blow private citizen, why would =
you need to run a mail</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; server?&nbsp; Would you not use your ISP's, at =
least as a smart relay? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Because he doesn't want to. He already provides =
POP3/SMTP services to me under his own domain name, and why should he =
change his servers to permit me to send mail as if from another domain =
where I do have a &quot;real&quot; mail account?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I hate the free stuff (no POP3/SMTP unless you pay), =
I already have my own on another domain (for which I pay), and I don't =
want his (because I don't want to keep changing email addresses =
everytime they get bought out/sold).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>In short, because if I have to depend on my ISP for =
my convenience, it won't get done, unless it's done their way. I use it =
for outbound only, I pop my mail from my other provider...</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>James H. Smith II</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Speaking for myself...</FONT>
</P>

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