[51145] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Wed Aug 21 16:03:11 2002
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 15:51:36 -0400
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net>
To: Robert Blayzor <rblayzor@inoc.net>
Cc: "'Mark Segal'" <MSegal@FUTUREWAY.CA>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <000501c24949$1c10ab90$6f00000a@z0.inoc.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
I'd seen back in the mid 1990s a user that got banned from
all the isps on his island (or fairly close to it) due to
abuse of services.
obviously when you have a set of only 3-4 isps to choose from
this makes it a lot easier to keep the guy from doing anything evil.
but these days everyone that can negotiate a bulk-dial
agreement with someone and run a radius server can sign up
users and make the abuse a bit harder to track ...
i do think some sort of smtp-callback would be nice/useful
for validation of e-mail addresses. it'll make it so
the bounces go to someplace at least instead of Postmaster.
- jared
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 03:29:46PM -0400, Robert Blayzor wrote:
>
> > Really good idea (no sarcasm, I actually like it).. But what
> > stops spammers
> > from registering their mail server?..Ie..
> > 1) Get a dsl account
> > 2) Ips get swipped to you
> > 3) Register the server
> > 4) SPAM
> > 5) Apologize, get a second chance
> > 6) get booted off
> > 7) Call the next ISP with a zero install
> > 8) Rinse and repeat.
>
> Treat them sort of like SSL certs now. Charge an annual registrar fee
> per company, not per server. (Something like $100 a year) The more they
> have to go out of their way to get their spam server online, the more
> they would be deterred to do so. They're only going to want to change
> so many ISP's, go through SWIP and then change their legal name for the
> registrar so many times.
>
> --
> Robert Blayzor, BOFH
> INOC, LLC
> rblayzor@inoc.net
>
> Life would be much easier if I had the source code.
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