[50736] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NANOG, its decline in s/n
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Wallingford)
Thu Aug 8 04:28:20 2002
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 04:22:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Wallingford <brian@meganet.net>
To: "John M. Brown" <john@chagresventures.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20020808010147.C52759@oso.greenflash.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Well said.
What happened to ihighway?
On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, John M. Brown wrote:
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:Having been a participant of the NANOG list since 1995, twice
:a past host of the meetings, and someone that believes we should
:help and educate, I am most concerned over the trend that is
:showing itself here on the list.
:
:This is a list about knowledge, share, help, and operations.
:
:Some on this list are "Old Pro's" others are just "Old ....."
:
:I see new names, new faces, sometimes the same questions, sometimes
:slight variences of those questions.
:
:What then happens is people attack the sender (heck I've even been
:slightly guilty of this), banish them to newbie.dev.nul.
:
:Threads move quickly from the question to debates on random junk
:and thus become a waste to the community.
:
:When I first got on the Internet, 1984, it was full of cooperative
:and helpful people. 18 years later, not so much.
:
:We have real issues to deal with, DMCA, Clarke, The Implosion of ICANN
:(with means the ITU will run things me thinks, not good), and various
:other laws, acts and general clue.void from .void.gov.
:
:So instead of picking on each other, calling it "standard NANOG hazing"
:or whatever, lets help, be good in our technical honesty, or don't
:post. If someone doesn't listen to your answer, a BIGGER stick isn't
:going to help, take it private, or move along.
:
:We are all pro's here, right ?? We got a net to run, lets go do it.
:
:respectfully,
:
:john brown
:a person not speaking for anyone else
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