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RE: effects of NYC power outage

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alex Rubenstein)
Mon Jul 22 11:55:20 2002

Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:54:53 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
From: Alex Rubenstein <alex@nac.net>
To: Phil Rosenthal <pr@isprime.com>
Cc: 'Marshall Eubanks' <tme@multicasttech.com>,
	'Craig Partridge' <craig@aland.bbn.com>,
	"nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
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Nope.

The main generator for the 5th floor apparently ran for a while, but the
radiator became clogged with garbage floating aroung in the air, and
therefore couldn't cool itself, and overheated. They shut it down to
prevent it from hurting itself.

Fuel was another issue.



On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Phil Rosenthal wrote:

>
> A side-note on why 25 Broadway lost power.
>
> I am told they had the fuel, but the "Local 3" union worker who was
> watching the gauges on the generator misread the dials, and a human
> error caused the generator to run bone dry.
>
> --Phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Marshall Eubanks
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 8:27 AM
> To: Craig Partridge; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: effects of NYC power outage
>
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:05:21 -0400
>  Craig Partridge <craig@aland.bbn.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Anyone got good data comparing the effects on the Net (BGP
> > reachability,
> > etc) of this weekend's NYC power outage with the effects power outage
> late
> > on September 11th.
> >
>
> Hello;
>
>   To be honest, I did not see any BGP or other routing effects from the
> NYC fire (there were problems on Abilene this weekend, but they were due
> to a bad router update). My data are presented on
>
> http://www.multicasttech.com/status
>
> and are fairly coarse-grained, having a 6 hour update cycle.
>
> The 9/11 problems actually came starting on 9/13 and 14 when the battery
> / generator power started running out at 25 Broadway. My understanding
> is that the biggest problem was the inability to access the facility to
> refuel.
>
> My (multicast-centric) analysis of the 9/11 response was presented at
> Nanog 23 :
> http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0110/eubanks.html
>
> You should also look at the other two presentations on 9/11 and the
> Internet at that meeting :
>
> http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0110/agenda.html
>
>                                  Regards
>                                  Marshall Eubanks
>
>
> T.M. Eubanks
> Multicast Technologies, Inc.
> 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 410
> Fairfax, Virginia 22030
> Phone : 703-293-9624       Fax     : 703-293-9609
> e-mail : tme@multicasttech.com
> http://www.multicasttech.com
>
> Test your network for multicast :
> http://www.multicasttech.com/mt/
>
>
> > I'm on a National Academy of Sciences committee looking at how the
> > Internet fared on 9/11 and we're always in search of good comparative
> > data.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Craig Partridge
> > Chief Scientist, BBN Technologies
>

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