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RE: SPEWS?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven J. Sobol)
Thu Jun 20 23:13:42 2002

Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:13:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
To: "Benjamin P. Grubin" <bgrubin@pobox.com>
Cc: 'Dan Hollis' <goemon@anime.net>,
	"'Regis M. Donovan'" <regis@offhand.org>, <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <008901c218cf$21775200$080aa8c0@VINZCLORTHO>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Benjamin P. Grubin wrote:


> Saying that a report is voluntary and/or advisory gets more and more
> irrelevant as rate of adoption increases.  Yes, the thousands of credit
> card companies could choose to evaluate you in any manner they wish, but
> yet they *all* judge you solely on your credit report.  So in *reality*,
> is it really still useful to say it is voluntary and advisory therefore
> undeserving of scrutiny/complaint?

I'm really not sure why you're making these assumptions. I don't beat 
around the bush... I've never seen you on NANOG before, nor have I talked
to you in any other venue, so I assume you aren't aware of that particular 
point. I didn't say SPEWS or any other listing service was undeserving of
scrutiny. I didn't even try to imply that.


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