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RE: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under (was RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Deepak Jain)
Thu May 30 17:58:03 2002

Reply-To: <deepak@ai.net>
From: "Deepak Jain" <deepak@ai.net>
To: <jpalmer@utilinc.com>, <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:57:16 -0400
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Clearly anyone in your market is buying from someone outside of your market.
The fees associated with reliability (if available) are a function of your
geography. Large providers are concentrating on the markets that are making
them the most money.

If you get a few networks in your area that want to save money on the cost
of reliability you can run a couple of circuits to the next large market and
try to knit together a reliable network and divide the costs that way.

My guess is that with more large providers on a profit-centered basis you
won't see the same kind of pricing equality you have been seeing between
Tier 1 and Tier N markets anymore.

Deepak Jain
AiNET

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
John Palmer
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:39 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under
(was RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions)



Its just that they aren't local and there is no need to pay for
a circuit all the way to Chicago. It seems that so many providers
have moved out of Macomb county. Anyone have any experience with
BigNet? We are talking to them now

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:woody@zocalo.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:42 PM
To: John Palmer
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Trying to find a connectivity provider that wont go under
(was RE: CAIS/Ardent and now Network Access Solutions)


    > Who can one rely on for connectivity? In general and in the Detroit
area?
    > I put out a request for bids on T-1's and all the national providers
were
    > way too high...

Haven't you just answered your own question?  I guess if you think
reliable service is too expensive, you're not in the market for reliable
service, no?

                                -Bill




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