[48031] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: The market must be coming back
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gary)
Tue May 21 03:38:29 2002
From: "Gary" <garyb@foundrynet.com>
To: "Richard A Steenbergen" <ras@e-gerbil.net>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:37:29 +0900
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Richard:
> Personally I would say that Foundry does EVERYTHING less than perfect.
> Nearly everyone I'm aware of (including myself) who has had to =
misfortune
> to try and use their devices in a service provider environment and a =
layer
> 3 role has come away with a universal loathing of biblical =
proportions.
Not worth a response. Can't please everybody and you CAN'T design =
everyone's network for them. Sort of like EIGRP. Even the worst =
network engineer can look great with it. Perhaps you should read JANOG. =
Maybe they can help you. Search for =
=E3=83=95=E3=82=A2=E3=82=A6=E3=83=B3=E3=83=89=E3=83=AA=E3=80=82 (note, =
if you cannot read this, it is Japanese for Foundry in unicode).
> I really can't stress this enough, it DOES NOT MATTER how many =
gigabits
> your box forwards. A router is ONLY as useful as the quality of its
> software and support, if you can't login to it or have working routing
> protocols, it's just a big paperweight. The only "wannabe cisco" =
company I
> have seen learn this lesson is Juniper, and I am firmly convinced this =
is
> the reason for their success in the core.
Juniper is an OUSTANDING company. Much better than many networking =
companies in many respects. I've also heard nothing but good things =
about Unisphere here in Japan, so perhaps this will be a good marriage =
with benefits to service providers. I'll enjoy competing. We will =
compete.
> Whenever I read a press release about Foundry in the core, I stop and =
take
> a moment to laugh uncontrollably. It has nothing to do with ISIS or =
MPLS,
> it has to do with making your existing functionality work correctly =
and
> behave in a sensible fashion. Nothing personal against Foundry, but =
the
> people in charge couldn't possibly "not get it" any more than they do =
now.
Remember what you said in this paragraph. I will refer to it later.
Yoroshiku,
Gary
