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Re: "portscans" (was Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Francis)
Sun May 19 04:00:13 2002

Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:55:56 -0700
From: Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net>
To: "Greg A. Woods" <woods@weird.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 11:46:21PM -0400, woods@weird.com said:
> [ On Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 20:15:10 (-0700), Scott Francis wrote: ]
> > Subject: Re: "portscans" (was Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product)
> >
> > Apologies; my finger was a bit too quick on the 'g'. As this message ca=
me to
> > the list, I will assume it is safe to cc the list on my reply. Sorry ab=
out
> > that last.
>=20
> Apology accepted, but I strongly recommend you learn to use some more
> reliable mail reader software -- something that doesn't accidentally
> invent reply addresses!  There was no hint that my message to you was in
> any way associated with the NANOG list -- it was delivered directly to
> you and CC'd only to the person you were responding to.  Some outside
> influence had to have associated it with having been a reply to a list
> posting and connected your desire to reply with inclusion of the list
> submission address.  According to your reply's headers you're using
> Mutt-1.3.25i, and according to the Mutt manual 'g' is the group-reply
> command.  I don't find any hint in the description of that command to
> indicate that it will magically associate a given message with a list,
> especially one that was not received from the list.  Even the
> 'list-reply' command should not be able to associate a private reply
> with the list address.  If Mutt really does magically associate private
> replies with list addresses by some mysterious mechanism then it's even
> more broken than I suspected.....

It doesn't. I cc'd the list because I thought the message to be germaine to
the public thread, and no mention was made of the message being private. Th=
at
was a misstep on my part, for which I apologize, and that was what I meant =
by
"a little too quick on the 'g'". I will in the future assume all replies not
cc'd to the list to be private, or else get permission before cc'ing the li=
st
on a reply.

Mea culpa.
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Scott Francis                   darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t
Systems/Network Manager          sfrancis@ [work:]         t o n o s . c o m
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